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Massgal

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Sep 14 02 9:06 AM

The Red Sox already have a fan group. They're called the BoSox Club, with a membership of 840 (I'm the incoming President). This is our 35th year in existence. It would be a blast to have "rooters" at the games but the problem is, there aren't enough tickets together that will allow fans to make enough noise to make a difference. 4 times a year 300+ from our group attend a game together and the Sox sit us in Section 29 & 30 (deep left field), the last few rows in the section. This is where the Sox place all the "groups". The seats positively suck (you can't see the electronic scoreboard and the PA announcements are barely audible), but there's no other tickets available so what can the Sox do? There are fan groups in other cities, and the team gives the fans tickets and as an incentive to become a member, and those folks attend games together and "root". In Fenway that's not possible because of the seating capacity. Yet another reason why we need a new park. Fans need to turn Fenway into a home field advantage. They sit on their hands and wait for something to happen. When the team is behind, the place is like a morgue.

FelixMantilla

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Sep 14 02 9:20 AM

The Sox already have a song....

COME BACK, TESSIE, WE STILL LOVE YOU

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The original lyrics of "Tessie" start out: "Tessie, you make me feel so badly / Why don't you turn around / Tessie you know I love you madly / Babe my heart weighs about a pound..." Boston's biggest baseball support club, the "Royal Rooters," took "Tessie" to heart, altering the lyrics to both support their players ("Cy Young you know I love you madly...") and to antagonize visiting players. During the 1903 World Series, Boston faced the mighty Pittsburgh Pirates, and the Royal Rooters were in full force. Every time Pirates superstar Honus Wagner took the field or stepped into the batter's box, the Royal Rooters let loose with a chorus of, "Honus why do you hit so badly, why don't you take a back seat and sit down." A red-eared Wagner never got into a hitting groove, and Boston won the World Series, and the Royal Rooters celebrated with chorus upon chorus of "Tessie."

"They have one of the most competent and fairest local newspaper corps covering them..."

Rough Carrigan

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Sep 14 02 11:27 AM

Yup, I read about that, too, Felix. That's just what I'm thinking of. And Massgal. The Sox could block off anything they wanted to that's not season tickets. They stick you folks in crappy seats because they don't give a shit.

Edit: And nothing says they couldn't have one block of Royal Rooters in section 31, another in section 12 and a third in the bleachers.

As for a song, I think it's more likely they take the melody of some well known pop song with the right mood and throw in new lyrics. How tough is that? I spent a whole semester of Physics in high school changing the lyrics of songs to make fun of the teacher and then singing the new versions in the back of the room. It's easier than you might think.

JGF

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Sep 14 02 4:42 PM

Ask Lucchino why he continues to appear on the cesspool that is Dennis & Callahan.

Ask Lucchino why, as president and CEO of the Red Sox, he hasn't come out in defense of his star players (primarily Manny) against the media's obsessive character assassinations. Ask him why he didn't follow John Henry's lead in defending Manny.

Kevin Mortons Ghost

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Sep 14 02 5:16 PM

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Amen JGF. Lucchino is supposed to be some sort of PR genius in addition to his other skills, right? Tell him he needs to figure out some way to tone down the hostility the pervades so much of the coverage of this team, in the papers, on the radio, in the national media. Weekly appearences with two of the leading culprits doesn't seem like a good place to start toning it down.

It was disgraceful the way he played along with their BS last week. Some please keep us posted on whether this comes up next time he's on.

kiss my aase

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Sep 14 02 5:30 PM

KMG and JGF, that subject is on my list.

I also want to ask him about the constant bad-mouthing of the minor league system that took place earlier this season, namely whether it was a question of ignorance, playing to the media's preconceived position, or some kind of a strategic decision; also, whether they intend to continue that tack rather than marketing their system like the Yankees do.

I'm not going into this intending to rip them a new one, but I'm certainly not going to lob softballs at them. They want feedback, I'll try to give them some substantial issues to chew on.

Keep the suggestions coming.

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philly sox fan

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Sep 14 02 5:41 PM

now that's a real dope

I suggest that you were a Boston Dirtdogs t-shirt and give Larry a seductive wink.

He'll melt like buttah.

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Rough Carrigan

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Sep 14 02 8:21 PM

Should he try to say he spins and plays zydeco, too?

Harry Hooper

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Sep 14 02 8:41 PM

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Quote:
The original lyrics of "Tessie" start out: "Tessie, you make me feel so badly / Why don't you turn around / Tessie you know I love you madly / Babe my heart weighs about a pound..."

I don't see any need to change these lyrics for the 2002 Sox

Great stuff, RC and Felix. I love the idea of reviving the Royal Rooters. If you stay to the end of a blowout (e.g., the serious butt-kickin' the Brewers delivered on Patriot's Day a few years back) or stay for the whole game on one of those raw April nights, give 'em a Royal Rooters shirt on the way out. Make it a good shirt, H/W/L, something you'd be proud to wear (maybe a red polo with blue and gold piping). Oh yeah, if you wear the shirt to a game, you get half-price programs and other little extras.

Congrats, Massgal, on your presidency.

Massgal

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Sep 15 02 4:55 AM

<<Lucchino is supposed to be some sort of PR genius in addition to his other skills, right? Tell him he needs to figure out some way to tone down the hostility the pervades so much of the coverage of this team, in the papers, on the radio, in the national media. Weekly appearences with two of the leading culprits doesn't seem like a good place to start toning it down.

It was disgraceful the way he played along with their BS last week.>>

When Lucchino first came on the air Thursday, he said the producer filled him on the controversy but that he hadn't been listening. You're correct; He played along with D&C and I found it so appalling that I emailed him asking how the organization tolerates their flagship radio station slandering one of their employees. I explained how prior to his arrival on air that John Dennis actually called Manny an "a-hole" and further slandered Manny by saying he'd be back in the DR selling pencils if he couldn't do one thing really well. I received a reply in which he wrote "Thanks for the background. I stand alerted". I think Larry will learn a valuable lesson from this incident, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's no "executive report" in 2003. I think next year is EEI's final year on the contract with the Sox. Here's hoping the Sox do the right thing and cut their ties to nitwit radio.

cmac24

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Sep 15 02 6:24 AM

Dennis said Manny'd be back in the DR selling penicils? That's funny considering he's not from the DR. He's Dominican from the Bronx. I'm almost positive that he was born here.

"Nobody can turn on you like a Boston crowd. "Nobody. Not even Philly. Philly, they hate you all the way. Boston, they love you -- then they turn on you. They hate you. Nobody turns like a Boston crowd."

Massgal

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Sep 15 02 12:31 PM

Guess who also got an invitation to the fireside chat with Lucchino? Looking forward to meeting Biollante & Kiss My Aase. I'm easy to spot. 5 feet. Glasses. Please introduce yourselves.

Cheri

biollante

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Sep 15 02 12:51 PM

Will do.
5'9" glasses.

Why do I suddenly think there will be 300 people there ?

Matt

kiss my aase

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Sep 15 02 1:07 PM

I just got a follow-up call from them--the roundtable is upstairs in the executive offices, which is probably a good sign regarding the number of people...I'm glad it's not in the Players' Club or the Diamond Club or whatever they're calling that big room above the bowling alley. Plus they're giving us a comp. ticket to the game (a bribe?

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See you there, I'm also 5' 9" with short, straight dark hair.

Mike

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''This time it's [expletive] ridiculous,'' Castillo said. ''The [expletive] guy who is doing this, he must have it in for me or something because it's a [expletive] joke. That's outrageous. The [expletive] guy is a [expletive] idiot.''

biollante

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Sep 15 02 1:12 PM

Any idea what door ?
The e-mail I received was very confusing.

kiss my aase

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Sep 15 02 1:25 PM

It's the 4 Yawkey Way entrance, next to gate A.

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''This time it's [expletive] ridiculous,'' Castillo said. ''The [expletive] guy who is doing this, he must have it in for me or something because it's a [expletive] joke. That's outrageous. The [expletive] guy is a [expletive] idiot.''

Massgal

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Sep 15 02 1:37 PM

<<Any idea what door ?>>

Glass door next to the ticket office at 4 Yawkey Way. Door is marked "Executive Offices". Someone is supposed to be there to hand out the game ticket and explain the rest of the plans. I was told the people were invited at random although my invitation was specific, as I am representing the fan club. It's too bad we have to stay and watch the game. <G>

Holmes Smarter Brother

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Sep 15 02 1:44 PM

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Just wondering Cheri, did you get the invite after your chastisement of Lucchino?

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Massgal

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Sep 15 02 1:58 PM

<<Just wondering Cheri, did you get the invite after your chastisement of Lucchino? >>HSB

I think the others were invited Thursday. I was invited Saturday by telephone. I don't know if LL had his people prepare the list. I think this is Charles Steinberg's function. I've met LL about 3 times. It'll be interesting to see if he remembers me, and if he makes the connection that I'm the person who scolded him.

Holmes Smarter Brother

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Sep 15 02 2:02 PM

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It would be nice to think they were paying attention. I mean, if they can't pay attention to a bigwig at the official booster club then they won't be paying attention to anyone.

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Fenway Feedback Session on Sept. 17th

''This time it's [expletive] ridiculous,'' Castillo said. ''The [expletive] guy who is doing this, he must have it in for me or something because it's a [expletive] joke. That's outrageous. The [expletive] guy is a [expletive] idiot.''

''This time it's [expletive] ridiculous,'' Castillo said. ''The [expletive] guy who is doing this, he must have it in for me or something because it's a [expletive] joke. That's outrageous. The [expletive] guy is a [expletive] idiot.''

''This time it's [expletive] ridiculous,'' Castillo said. ''The [expletive] guy who is doing this, he must have it in for me or something because it's a [expletive] joke. That's outrageous. The [expletive] guy is a [expletive] idiot.''