Grady Speaks to GQ in SoSH Archive 28 Forum

RSS
Email

0 Points

Forum Jump

<< Previous Topic Next Topic >>

Grady Speaks to GQ

Author

Comment

AlNipper49

Grady Speaks to GQ

Lead

[-]

Posts: 8175

Mar 15 04 3:21 PM

aka Peter North

Tags : None

link

Quote:

On counting on Pedro Martinez to win Game 7 of the ALCS: "Time after time after time this year, when this kid got into a jam in an inning where it's getting close to the end of his outing, he's the one we left in there to get out of the jam that inning. Then we'd take him out of the game. We'd done it through the year, over and over and over. We got a bad result this time. Most of the time, we got good results. And he'd have gotten it done. What beat him was the bloop hit by Posada."

Quote:

On being fired: "I knew that if we didn't win the World Series this year, somebody was gonna be the goat."

Quote:

On new Red Sox manager, Terry Francona: "I just hope he knows what he's getting into."

Rudy Pemberton

Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 15395

Mar 15 04 3:26 PM

member

The problem was that Pedro was left in to get out of the jam and he got out of it. It was called the 7th inning.

You would think this guy would just let it go.

URIette

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 1137

Mar 15 04 3:29 PM

Quote:
On new Red Sox manager, Terry Francona: "I just hope he knows what he's getting into."

The first two quotes are...interesting. Neither one is one I wouldn't guess to come out of his mouth. To rehash either one would to beat a dead horse IMO.

However the quote above drives me nuts. Didn't he know what he was getting into last year? Did he honestly think being manager in Boston was going to be a walk in the park? I think everyone involved with baseball knows what a tough job being manager in Boston really is. They don't need Grady Little to point that out. Maybe someone should have let him in on the secret.

DieHard3

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 11341

Mar 15 04 3:29 PM

Jesus Rudy, we were thinking alike on that one. As soon as I read that quote I said exactly the same thing, "Yeah Grady, he did, IN THE SEVENTH!!!1 YOU MOTHE*%^$%&*^#$( STUPID GOD$*^%$#@ IDIOT."

Paul M

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 11612

Mar 15 04 3:31 PM

Did Grady mention why he kept Pedro in to face Matsui with a warmed up Embree twiddling his thumbs--Matsui was over 100 OPS pts. lower vs. lefties. Or the fact 6 of the previous 8 batters reached vs. Pedro before Posada came up?

No, it'll be more fun this way. This way, when we do win it all, and you all are out there flipping birds back and forth with Yankee fans, you'll be smiling a whole lot wider.Gehrig38

Rudy Pemberton

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 15395

Mar 15 04 3:32 PM

member

Making the mistake may have been somewhat defensible...continuing to deny that a mistake was made is what will make it so that Grady will never manage again.

I used to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but now I hate him.

In other words, I've joined the rest of you

yecul

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 13165

Mar 15 04 3:47 PM

member

He's petty and is deflecting blame away from himself probably due to ego, but also for future managerial consideration. If he paints Boston and the organization as maniacal then he can absolve himself of the blame. Or, at least he thinks so.

It was clear all along and even moreso now that he's an inept manager.

My advice is to put on the full court press, and when she says she probably shouldn't because she's moving and doesn't want to get attached, say "Don't worry, I wasn't going to call you anyway."
-Carlos Cowart

Buffalo Head

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 6500

Mar 15 04 3:47 PM

SexyBuffaloBanana

I wonder what Grady looks like in a Tux?

Insert "in the coffin" jokes here.

"The moderator of the news conference asked if there were any other questions for Little. There were none. It was the only question. Why? Why? Why? The scream echoes like the New England wind."

FenwayRocks

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 307

Mar 15 04 3:55 PM

member

Quote:
On new Red Sox manager, Terry Francona: "I just hope he knows what he's getting into."

That works both ways, Grady. Success would be just as magnified and exaggerated on the positive side as Failure is on the negative.

They call that high risk, high reward. Certainly part of the territory in Boston.

Let's hope everyone can finally bury the events of that October night and move on.

"I would be lost without baseball. I don't think that I could stand being away from it as long as I was alive."
-- Roberto Clemente

DLew On Roids

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 8093

Mar 15 04 4:09 PM

member

I've been looking at Pedro's starts from 2003 on a game-by-game basis lately, and Grady's right that he almost always left the game at the end of an inning (through July, the only time he'd been lifted mid-inning was the Baltimore start where he was shelled). The point's already been made--and it's correct--that under normal 2003 circumstances, Pedro never would have started the 8th. Grady felt the importance of the situation, froze, and that decision probably cost them the game (there's always the chance that Timmleh/Embree/Billson blow a 3-run lead, but it's what...4% or something).

I can understand Little's attitude, though. He'll never be hired again as an ML manager if he admits he choked.

__________
Karim Garcia? Who are you to come after Pedro Martinez? -- Pedro Martinez

epraz

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 2029

Mar 15 04 4:16 PM

longtime member

Gump's right, though---even though he let him in, the most maddening thing was that Posada's game tying hit was a chip shot, not a line shot. Ugh. Enough game 7 talk.

JayMags71

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 3181

Mar 15 04 4:44 PM

Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth. Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth.

Timlin in the Eighth, Williamson in the ninth.

Is it really so @#%$ hard?!?!?

Whatever. On to 2004.

TheYellowDart5

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 6736

Mar 15 04 4:48 PM

member

@#%$ you Grady.

Simple as that.

---------------
"Yaz, you're my idol. I want my son to be just like you -- rich."
Joe Foy

PedroKsBambino

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 8658

Mar 15 04 5:10 PM

member

It's all been said, the last holdout has even left the sinking ship.

On to 2004.

"Finally, after all these years, a worthy foil for Mr. Dan Shaughnessy. This is fantastic. It's like the bear meeting the shank." SptGuy33

PedroisGod

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 1527

Mar 15 04 5:19 PM

boy

Quote:
The problem was that Pedro was left in to get out of the jam and he got out of it. It was called the 7th inning.

Goodness, I was thinking the exact same thing when I read it. After hearing Pedro on Sunday Conversation and reading the comments about Grady in BP 2004 I'm really glad he's gone. I just can't believe that one man could possibly be as dumb as Grady Little.

Pedro! Happy Birthday man! Congrats, tie one on for me
Gehrig38

Comfortably Lomb

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 5932

Mar 15 04 5:48 PM

longtime member

Quote:
"I just hope he knows what he's getting into."

Well Grady, he doesn't seem to have the awareness of a walnut so I bet he does understand the situation. The really interesting question is what on earth you thought you had gotten yourself into when you first came to the Sox. This team chews through managers like nobody's business. When's the last time a Sox manager has left town without being torn to shreds by the fans or media first?

Managing the Sox is really a career gamble. If you're the one in command when this team finally wins it all then you will become a baseball god in Boston. Unfortunately if you fail you're worse than a curse-word.

------------------
Daily Baseball Banter!
Talking Baseball

DieHardSoxFan1

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 2242

Mar 15 04 6:02 PM

member

Quote:
Unfortunately if you fail you're worse than a curse-word.

I disagree with this statement. If you added, " by being an incredibly stupid @#%$ moron" then we can talk.

GO SOX

Rough Carrigan

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 8950

Mar 15 04 6:10 PM

Well, I already despised Tito's predecessor, so his speaking to Goober Quarterly can't drop him much in my esteem.

But, I'm really sick of this relentless harping on Bill Buckner and his reception by Sox fans. In my estimation, real Sox fans never bore him much of a grudge. The guy came back to Fenway to a thunderous applause. The problem is that the national media needs simplicity. If a series of events can possibly be crystallized into one image, even if that image creates an unfair impression, it *will* be done. Agonizing defeat in 1986? Cue the Buckner footage. Red Sox fans and their history? Cue the Buckner footage.

Where are the villagers with torches and pikes marching up to Calvin Schiraldi's house? He couldn't hold some leads. Where's the mob dragging Johnny Mac from his house? He bungled a score of decisions in that series. When was the firebombing of Tom Gordon's house? I must have missed it. If he could have just held the lead Derek Lowe handed off to him in game 4 of the 1998 ALDS, there would have been a game 5 with Pedro starting. Did I miss the protesters outside of Rod Beck's house after he gave up a game winning homer in game 1 of the '99 ALCS ("Two four six eight, who will we excoriate? Beck! Beck! Fvck you Beck!"), or at Rheal Cormier's ("One two three four Frenchy's momma was a . . ")after he gave up the game winning hit in game 2?

Tim Wakefield is still adored by Sox fans despite giving up the game winning homer. Are Sox fans hysterical at times? Yes. Do we overreact a lot of the time? Yes. But, without NBC and ESPN and their hysterical, childish harping on the Buckner play over and over and over, there IS no Buckner, at least no goat Buckner.

The only person on the Sox who let the self-fulfilling prophecy of worrying about choking mess him up was Tito's predecessor.

------------------
Shonda Schilling said she wanted to be close to her family in Baltimore. She wanted to be part of another World Series-and thought the likeliest locale for that might be yankee stadium. "But my family in Baltimore, nobody likes the yankees. They were appalled."

sfip

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 4130

Mar 15 04 6:22 PM

member

Hey, I got an idea! Let's talk about how dumb Grady Little was to leave Pedro in during game 7!!!!

Oh wait, have we done this before? :rolleyes

PKB's right. The season starts April 4th.

Since when did Ben Affleck become The Voice of Red Sox Fans?...Ben Affleck needs to be stopped. I'm not kidding."
--sptguy33

Joe D Reid

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 1138

Mar 15 04 6:52 PM

longtime member

This idea that Sox fans will turn on Sox players/managers just gets taken to absurd extremes in the national media.

Candidates for Sox "goats":

Pesky '46: got a lot of undeserved garbage for a few years; now possibly the most beloved person in organization.

Joe McCarthy/Denny Galehouse '48: known by what, 10% of fans?

Yaz/Aparacio '72(?): maybe a stretch for goat status, but at any rate, Yazliness is next to godlinesss in New England.

Bill Lee '75: spawned more adoring SoSH nicknames than any other Sox player.

Mike Torrez '78: rage focused on opponent, as is befitting.

Schiraldi '86: lost to the mists of time.

Buckner '86: mixed--got lots of garbage, but also the standing O mentioned above.

Grady: hated b/c (1) he's the most recent and (2) he gives INTERVIEWS about it. Honestly, Grady, pipe down and it'll go away once the season starts. Don't pick the scab.

MikeF

Re: Grady Speaks to GQ

[-]

Posts: 2283

Mar 15 04 7:12 PM

As to certain segments of philosophy Grady = Pete Rose
Lie for 14 years then tell a half truth.

". Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I realize
that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."

<< Previous Topic Next Topic >>

Yuku free message boards

Grady Speaks to GQ

Grady Speaks to GQ