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SoxFanSince57

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Jun 1 05 7:30 AM

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I just got this e-mail from mlb so I decided to set up this thread. As Mayor Daley said "Vote early and vote often."

THREE SOX TAKE EARLY BALLOT LEAD

For the last few years, Jason Varitek has been looked at as the leader of the Red Sox. The switch-hitting captain is a leader in a broader sense at the moment, as he ranks first among American League catchers in the first released results of All-Star balloting.

Joining Varitek, who leads Ivan Rodriguez by about 60,000 votes, atop the rankings is menacing slugger David Ortiz and left fielder Manny Ramirez.

Ortiz -- who made his first All-Star appearance a year ago -- ranks first at DH. With 680,834 votes, he has a large lead over the Yankees' Jason Giambi and the Orioles' Rafael Palmeiro.

Ramirez, who has been a fixture at the All-Star Game, leads all outfielders with 553,959 votes. The RBI machine is seeking his ninth All-Star appearance.

Oil Can Dan

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Jun 1 05 7:34 AM

We're still doing home-field advantage for the World Series based on which league wins this game, right?

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Lose Remerswaal

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Jun 1 05 7:42 AM

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We're still doing home-field advantage for the World Series based on which league wins this game, right?

Yep. "This One Counts", or something like that. Helped the World Champions alot last year, no? Had the AL LOST the All Star game last year we could have poured champagne all over Fenway, but NOOOOO, we hadda win the All Star game and win it all on the road.

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cecilcooper

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Jun 1 05 7:43 AM

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Vote for Dave Roberts for the NL--it's the least we can do.

NJ Fan

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Jun 1 05 8:28 AM

With Tito as Mgr, I'm sure the Sox will be well-represented whether the players are voted in by the fans or not.

Then there's the rational side of brain hoping that certain players don't get selected so that they can get 3 days off.

BTW, has Tek ever been an All-Star?

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Jun 1 05 8:32 AM

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He was, in 2003. He didn't get in the game, though.

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Jun 1 05 8:35 AM

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Where is Schemp listed? If he's a LF, he'll probably overtake Manny. If the OFs aren't picked by position (top three vote getters start regardless of position), I can still see Schemp overtaking Manny.

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Jun 1 05 8:37 AM

Thanks, well he's the guy who I'd vote "most in need of a mid-July vacation" but it would appear he'll be in either by the fans or Tito.

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Jun 1 05 8:42 AM

Where is the All-Star Game this year?

It will be interesting to see if Tito stocks the team with sox the way Torre brought yankees with him.

If Varitek, Ortiz and Manny are voted in, then Damon and Clement would be going as reserves.

Bronson and Wake had cases early on but it's not looking good at this point.
Maybe Trot? Or Edgar if he continues his hot hitting.
How about Timlin in honor of Tom Gordon's selection.

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Jun 1 05 8:48 AM

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All Star game is being played in Comerica Park in Detroit.

Thus the problem. It's hard, damn near impossible to be a fan of the game, and a fan of the Sox. Reality must be suspended for you, for all 9 innings, reality and rational thought.
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PseuFighter

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Jun 1 05 10:04 AM

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AFAIK, this is the final year of the "this time it counts" trial period. I'm not sure if they renewed it.

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Jun 1 05 10:09 AM

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I doubt Tito will overload it with red Sox. When you are done with the sox and Yanks who are voted Starters. they you will need to find players from the 10 or so teams who have no one voted as a starter.

I don't see the Sox getting more than 5 All Stars

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Jun 1 05 10:35 AM

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tito wouldn't overload the team with red sox, but it would be funny if he did. why shouldn't kelly shoppach be an all star? jay payton? SHAWN WOOTEN?

i actually bet that terry, with the help of the competent front office, will field a very competitive team (when it comes to taking one player from each of the scrub teams) because he'll know the ramifications of the game, and will likely be smart enough to look at the performance of each player instead of their name recognition -- i.e. why players like huston street or mark kotsay are the only formidable players on oakland, and not zito, chavez -- a case could be made for crosby if he performs until the break but there's too much time lost.

anyways, huston street for all-star!

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Jun 1 05 10:37 AM

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I doubt Tito will overload it with red Sox. When you are done with the sox and Yanks who are voted Starters. they you will need to find players from the 10 or so teams who have no one voted as a starter.

How is this year different from all the years that Torre brought most of his 25 man roster?

I bet Francona brings someone like Timlin or Wakefield. That's the type of guy Torre always took. Veterens who's contribution could be overlooked by the casual fan.

If Manny doesn't get voted in, he might not go at all. Or at least he wouldn't deserve to as of right now.

Smiling Joe Hesketh

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Jun 1 05 11:09 AM

Millar's currently 2nd in votes among first basemen. :lol

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Smiling Joe Hesketh

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Jun 1 05 11:26 AM

Hey gang, Smnookin can't post right now, but he asked me to post this on his behalf:

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How is this year different from all the years that Torre brought most of his 25 man roster?

What's different is the rules for selecting the team has changed -- Terry's addressed this a couple of times. He doesn't have the leeway that Torre had to choose a bunch of his own players. What's more, he said he's glad he doesn't need to deal with that; talk about internal politics.
Also, I'm too lazy to look it up right now -- especially since I've been shut out of ezboard -- but I seem to remember that even in Torre's most egregious year, he didn't pick players that were clearly mediocre.

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Jun 1 05 11:35 AM

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but I seem to remember that even in Torre's most egregious year, he didn't pick players that were clearly mediocre.

Last year he took Gordon over guys with:

Lower ERA's
More saves

Specifically Keith Foulke and Eddie Guardado.

Both clearly earned a spot on the all star team, and Gordon made it over both of them.

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LahoudOrBillyC

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Jun 1 05 11:37 AM

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In Torre's six years as manager, he has presided over 5, 4, 4, 7, 7, and 8 All Stars. If there is a problem, the problem has clearly gotten worse, not better. Last year's gang included Giambi, Gordon, Jeter, Matsui, Rivera, Rodriguez, Sheffield, and Vazquez. Some of these guys were starters.

Recognize and Realize

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Jun 1 05 12:27 PM

He took Stanton one year. Mike Timlin, All-Star.

Maybe we can get more footage of him closing out the WS for the Jays and then an explanation as to why he lost the closer mentality while pitchers like Armando Benetiz and Troy Percival continue to get the ball in the 9th inning soley because of their "closer mentality".

And what specifically changed in the selection process to de-Torre it?

Plus, if they put a Sox on the last man standing internet voting history says he'll get voted in.

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Jun 1 05 12:31 PM

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What's different is the rules for selecting the team has changed

How so exactly?

mabrowndog

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Jun 1 05 3:46 PM

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Wakefield

Ummm... I don't think so.

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